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A poll about jobs and salary
I thought I'd do a little poll of the folks I know, or at least the folks who read my LJ, about jobs and salaries. I thought it might be interesting for myself, and others, to see if our perceptions reflect reality. If i did this correctly I think it is possible to reply to the poll anonymously.

Poll #214440 Salary Survey

What pay bracket are you in?


Where do you live? (city, state, country)

What is your position / job title / etc?

How many years of experience do you have in your field?

I am: curious curious
Current Media: office buzz

leilia From: leilia Date: December 3rd, 2003 01:00 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
Gods that is depressing -- thank you Florida. Not to mention that I have a degree and speak another language -- Spanish.

It's all good though
thekimmer From: thekimmer Date: December 3rd, 2003 01:03 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
Not anonymous - you can view the answers - I did.
mephron From: mephron Date: December 3rd, 2003 01:10 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
Yes, when he set up the poll he didn't set it as 'viewable only by me'.
thekimmer From: thekimmer Date: December 3rd, 2003 01:32 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)

Oh well, at least my home phone number wasn't included. ;)
zonereyrie From: zonereyrie Date: December 3rd, 2003 02:27 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
Yeah, the answers should be viewable to everyone.

I thought you could reply to a survey without being logged in if it was open to anyone - maybe I'm mistaken on that, I haven't used surveys too much.
reddragdiva From: reddragdiva Date: December 3rd, 2003 01:46 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
The salary numbers don't include locale conversion. I get £30k in London. Same level of job would get AUD$50k in Melbourne, which is £20k, but give one a higher standard of living for it. That sort of thing
zonereyrie From: zonereyrie Date: December 3rd, 2003 02:30 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
Yeah, that's always hard to account for - because the 'value of the dollar' isn't universal. I tried to compensate for that a little by figuring all amounts would be converted to USD, and then asking where you were.

Because even in the US making $50k in NYC is not like making $50K in Omaha.
rbarclay From: rbarclay Date: December 3rd, 2003 02:24 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
You withhold ;) ital information, which is, what level of taxes, if any, are to be deducted before multiplying the (monthly,weekly) salary to get to a (I guess) yearly figure.
For example, here in Austria part of the whole tax/social security stuff is paid by the employer and usually not included when one gives a salary figure. If I earn EUR 2k before taxes, I get ~ EUR 1k6 (12 times a year, plus a 13th qnd 1th salary which is taxed not as heavily, say EUR 1k8) on my bank-account, but my employer pays about EUR 3k per month (err, 14 times a year) for me in salary and taxes and social security
I guess in the US one would take the employers figure, because the whole tax- and insurance mess lies with the employee, correct?
zonereyrie From: zonereyrie Date: December 3rd, 2003 02:33 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
Salary figures in the US tend to be gross, not net. So that's before taxes, social security, 401k, etc, is subtracted. Insurance and such depends on the employer and the plan. I had deductions to cover my medical and dental plan, but I don't pay 100% of the plan fees - my employer covers some of it too as part of my benefit package. I also have optional long term disability coverage, which is split.
rbarclay From: rbarclay Date: December 3rd, 2003 02:40 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
Could you show an example deduction? That might make it easier for me (living in a country where there's mandatory social security, so no special retirement or dental or medical "plans".

(BTW, WTF is a 401k? I'm wondering for some time now.)
zonereyrie From: zonereyrie Date: December 3rd, 2003 04:26 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
Yeah, my paystubs are at home but I'll try to show an example later.

401K is named after the section of the internal revenue code that established them. It is a retirement account, you can put it so much a year and it comes out of your income pre-tax. It is one of the ways the government tries to encourage people to save for retirement.
rbarclay From: rbarclay Date: December 3rd, 2003 04:35 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
Does the US have a retirement system in which the currently working generation pays for the currently retired or does everyone save for himself?
(Here in .at it's the former, but the fucking neoliberals are actively trying to change it.)
zonereyrie From: zonereyrie Date: December 3rd, 2003 04:45 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
We have the former - Social Security. But most of the intelligent folks from about my generation on don't trust it since the system is falling apart. The Baby Boomer generation are all hitting retirement age and starting to draw, but the current generations paying in are much, much smaller than the one retiring. The system is way off balance.

Even then Social Security hasn't kept pace with inflation, you'd be hard pressed to live comfortably solely on SS and by the time I hit retirement age (I think they bumped it to 67 now...) I really don't expect SS to be worth shit - if the system hasn't completely caved in by then.
7threality From: 7threality Date: December 4th, 2003 06:37 am (UTC) (Direct Link)
Frickin' inflation.

I've already rambled semi-coherently about that on my journal, so I won't bore you here.

Suffice it to say that anyone who wants political power shouldn't have it.
From: arcticelf Date: December 4th, 2003 06:54 am (UTC) (Direct Link)

sample deduction

Gross Pay: $1,000.00

Fed Income Tax: -120.00
Social Security Tax: -60.00
Medicar Tax: -20.00 (this one is another retirement benifit that will probably be dead before we are old enought to cash it in)
State Imcome Tax: -50.00

Other ---
Medical Insurance: -20
401K: -100
Dental: -10

Final check: $620

hope that makes things a bit clearer.

krellis From: krellis Date: December 3rd, 2003 02:33 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
Not entirely - in the US, employers tend to say "this is your salary - xxxx". The employee does pay taxes out of that, yes, but the employer also pays taxes ABOVE that, generally matching (or near) the amounts which are taken out of the employee's pay. This is, in my experience anyway, generally just considered by the employer to be part of the cost of having employees, and isn't considered part of their pay. Ditto for benefits and the like - they're above and beyond the actual salary, but they're not generally included when you're talking about how much you get paid like this.
sauergeek From: sauergeek Date: December 4th, 2003 09:23 am (UTC) (Direct Link)
The employer matches social security & medicare taxes, but not income taxes.
qedrakmar From: qedrakmar Date: December 3rd, 2003 03:30 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
Wow. Now I feel even worse about having had close to 10 years of experience and still only making $35K when I was in a technical field... I feel so underpaid. :(
solipsistnation From: solipsistnation Date: December 3rd, 2003 08:35 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)

No shit.
zonereyrie From: zonereyrie Date: December 4th, 2003 10:26 am (UTC) (Direct Link)
Actually seeing your answer just made me want to work in academia more.
lizzielizzie From: lizzielizzie Date: December 3rd, 2003 06:10 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
I answered for my last full-time position in my former field. I figure that will skew your numbers less. ;-)
sauergeek From: sauergeek Date: December 3rd, 2003 07:59 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
I did exactly the opposite, so I'll skew the numbers at least a little bit.
chiieddy From: chiieddy Date: December 4th, 2003 08:47 am (UTC) (Direct Link)
Either the poll's closed or you have to be logged in to get to it. :)
chiieddy From: chiieddy Date: December 4th, 2003 08:48 am (UTC) (Direct Link)
Ah logged in did it. :)