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zonereyrie
zonereyrie
Yeah, I know this makes me a bad person
I've been reading a number of the sex related LJ communities, especially the advice ones, and my overall reaction to a lot of the entries is "You! Out of the pool! You're not qualified to have sex! Until you know *anything* about your body, reproduction, etc, you're a menace to yourself and others. No sex for you!" Especially the people claiming to be 15, etc. "It isn't statutory rape because we're both 15." No, sorry, it doesn't work that way. "I'm experiencing itching, burning, and discharge - do I have an STD?" Well, something sure as hell ain't right - see a damn doctor! "My girlfriend seems to have a urinary tract infection and instead of talking to a doctor we talked to some guy who told us a bunch of bullshit about possible causes." That's nice, get her to a doc before she fuckin' dies from toxic shock. (My dad almost died from a bladder infection when I was in my early teens. He didn't bother going to a doc and eventually the toxins built up in his blood and he got delirious.)

Yeah, yeah, I'm old and grumpy and flagrant ignorance gets my hackles up. Sex is fun, yeah, but the recklessness and irresponsibility displayed is amazing.

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simonb From: simonb Date: August 24th, 2004 05:05 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
I have to agree; sometimes you have to wonder about people.

And then I remember the stories I've been told about the state of the sex education stuff in the US and it starts to make sense; along with the US having the highest teen pregnacy rate in the western world. Unfortunately the UK is following close behind the US there :(
zonereyrie From: zonereyrie Date: August 24th, 2004 05:15 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
It really is scary. I love the "If we don't tell our children about sex they'll never have it" attitude. Yeah, humans never managed to mate before sex ed came along.
pdelahanty From: pdelahanty Date: August 24th, 2004 05:19 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
My parents never told me about sex. I figured it out myself (before sex ed).
Err...not that I had sex before sex ed. Nope, I wasn't quite that lucky. (Anyone who has seen a photo of me in high school would see why.)
zonereyrie From: zonereyrie Date: August 24th, 2004 05:27 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
I lost my virginity when I was 20, in college.

But by my early teens I knew more about sex, and physiology, than most of these people. I'd read through a copy of Gray's Anatomy, skimmed through Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Sex But Were Afraid To Ask (I found an old copy my parents had and put it on the bookshelf in my room - until it vanished one day), and I'd found my dad's cache of old Hustlers and Playboys.

Heck, I probably knew more about the real names for all the body parts then then I do now. :-)
pdelahanty From: pdelahanty Date: August 24th, 2004 05:31 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
I lost my virginity when I was 20, in college.

Considering you were at WPI, that's quite a feat. One girl for every four hundred guys (or so it seemed to me).
zonereyrie From: zonereyrie Date: August 24th, 2004 05:50 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
C-Term Sophomore year.

And yes, she went to WPI too. My second lover was C-Term my 3rd year, also a WPI girl.

My other college SOs were off-campus.
pdelahanty From: pdelahanty Date: August 24th, 2004 06:15 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
Woah! You're way over quota for WPI. ;)

For me, it wasn't until a year after I graduated.
solipsistnation From: solipsistnation Date: August 24th, 2004 06:57 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)

Ha, if _he's_ over quota, I'm downright AUP-violatin'.
zonereyrie From: zonereyrie Date: August 24th, 2004 07:23 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
Work it girlfriend!
simonb From: simonb Date: August 24th, 2004 05:31 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
There is also the increasing bias towards abstinence-based methods of contraception in the US. Whilst its true that you're highly unlikely to get an STI/STD if practising abstinence, saying "Just say no" or "Don't do this" to teenagers in a society which is increasingly openly sexual and child fashions are becoming sexualised (a friend recently saw a young (i.e. under 10) girl with a "Porn Star" t-shirt on) is pretty stupid. You have to wonder if the HIV and other STI/STD rates are going to increase in years to come.

Hell, they have seen a rise in the STI/STD infection rates in the UK; even syphilius is on the increase. More worrying, recent health surveys have found that 60% of 16 to 24 year olds admit to not using condoms and maybe 10% of this age group is infected with chlamydia in both genders
zonereyrie From: zonereyrie Date: August 24th, 2004 05:48 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
I guess the silver lining might be that if their generation suffers from widespread STDs and AIDS deaths that maybe they'll be more proactive about educating the next generation.

Yeah, who am I kidding.
kadath From: kadath Date: August 24th, 2004 05:10 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
Yeast infections and UTIs usually clear up on their own. Doesn't mean a gal shouldn't see a doctor if she hasn't had one before, or that she shouldn't carefully monitor a UTI, but they also usually don't need a doctor's care.
zonereyrie From: zonereyrie Date: August 24th, 2004 05:19 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
If you don't know anything about it, like these folks, I think seeing a doc is recommended. Many infections can clear up on their own, but UTIs can also be fatal if they reach the bladder and kidneys. Or, if not fatal, they can result in kidney damage. The way they're asking questions I don't think they'd know what to monitor in the first place.

It is kind of disturbing the questions being asked. I mean, asking questions is good - but I kind of think you should know the basics *before* engaging in the activity. With some of these people it is like barrelling down the highway in a car - then asking someone just how you steer anyway.
kadath From: kadath Date: August 24th, 2004 05:32 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
Oh, true. If you're asking "soemtimez it itchs down their omg do i haev gonaria!?! i herd form this grl skool taht gonaria can maek it so u cant haev babbeez!!!" your ass should be at the doctor's office.
rhysara From: rhysara Date: August 24th, 2004 05:44 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
Having had a urinary tract infection (I developed it as a fun side effect of a virus I picked up on a tropical vacation), I can honestly say that I have never been so sick in my life (not even the pneumonia I came down with my freshman year of college compares).

Of course as I hate doctors and am typically of the opinion that if you ignore something it will just go away, I ignored or completely missed the signs that all was not as it should be. I even ignored the dizzy spells as a passing fancy and continued on with my life.

I was not however able to ignore the 105 degree fever that I finally ended up with and that wasn't going away without serious medical intervention. (The fever showed up around the time the infection spread to my kidneys).

Oh how very sick I was, let me count the ways. yuck, yuck, yuck.

The point of this however is to say that the saving grace for some of these kids is that eventually they will get sick enough that someone should notice and intervene. At least we can hope.
mindways From: mindways Date: August 25th, 2004 08:07 am (UTC) (Direct Link)
Of course as I hate doctors and am typically of the opinion that if you ignore something it will just go away,

My uncle was of a similar opinion in college....and ended up having walking pneumonia for 2 years as a result. ("Persistent cough, not quite going away - not worth going to a doctor over.")

It trashed his cardiovascular system badly enough that he died in his 40s. He needed to use a portable oxygen generator for most of the 10 years that I knew him.
rhysara From: rhysara Date: August 25th, 2004 10:24 am (UTC) (Direct Link)
As I currently have a large collection of annoying-little-things-not-worth-going-to-the-doctor-over, I will be going to the doctor just as soon as my health insurance kicks in (about 2 months).
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