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The Ramblings of a Damaged Mind
It seems I have some coworker(s) reading this that I don't know about. So - hi there.

How do I know? Well, last night I made a post venting about my dislike of the corporate website and someone here saw that and pointed the designer who used to maintain the site at it. Which is fine, if I make a public post then anyone can read it - like this one. He got upset because he felt I was slamming him, so I feel that since the old post was public (not anymore, I filtered it) this should be too.

His name is Roger, and I did *not* mean to slam him. Roger has always been helpful in my two years here. When we needed to crank out a website for PayCash in two weeks a few months ago Roger was right on top of it, turning around our requests for images immediately. Yes, I have issues with our site. I worked on the HTML4, CSS2, and WAI W3C recommendations - so it really bugs me that our site is so far outside of standards compliance. And it bothers me that many of the links only work in IE, when I use Mozilla Suite. I can't use our own site from my Linux box because I, obviously, don't have IE there. I also have a general dislike of frames, and I feel the use of them on our site is unnecessary. The 'IE only' attitude, frankly, really pisses me off on *any* site. This is just one I have some ability to fix.

I don't blame Roger for these things. He was given the design and had to work within it. We talked about this just after I started two years ago when the site was redesigned, and I raised the issues then. But his hands were tied. I've also been unable to do more than offer suggestions because it was 'outside of my area of resposibility', so I was told to just leave the site to others and not try anything. I would *never* try to do Roger's job, or even suggest that I am capable of it. I'm not a designer, and I have no inclination to be one.

I like Roger, I think he's a stand-up guy. When I've needed something graphical he's always handled it quickly for me. So I feel badly that he took my comments personally and that he was upset by them. I never intended for anything I said to be an attack on him. Roger - I'm sorry.

I might start filtering more posts just to keep the drama down, but I'm not all that secretive a person so if my public posts really bother anyone else, at least have the cojones to say something to me about it.

I am: annoyed annoyed
Current Media: office buzz

buran From: buran Date: November 10th, 2004 07:54 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
Look at it this way -- now that you're the webmaster, you have an opportunity to make it right. And I didn't see you as slamming the guy -- more the fact that he never considered that yes, there IS more than just IE/WIN -- an attitude far too many web types seem to have, something which I find inexcusable... especially if it's paid work.
zonereyrie From: zonereyrie Date: November 10th, 2004 09:26 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
My understanding is that he wasn't given a choice. I believe the VP of Marketing, who was, at the time, the head of the creative studio, came up with the design. And they use Dreamweaver to do the pages, and I just don't think anyone with a real drive for standards configured the tools. So Dreamweaver was spitting out pages with JavaScript links, etc - which I know it doesn't have to do.

I'm mostly done with a prototype template that I want to put the site into. It looks very much like the current site. I dropped a couple of the images and tightened things up a little to retrieve some more real-estate. Almost all of the navigation images have been replaced with CSS formatted text, and I'll probably kill the last few tomorrow. I've also implemented CSS pop-up menus for the upper menu bar, so you can go right to sub pages. No frames, 100% XHTML 1.0 Transitional compliant. (I could probably do strict, but I don't want to bite off too much right now.) It is all XHTML and CSS - not even JavaScript, except that IE7 library for IE to make things like position: fixed; work. But I'm using the packed version so that's only 16k or so.

I'm pretty happy with it. I can tighten it up some more tomorrow, but I think I'm about ready to start pulling the content into the new template and cleaning it up as I go.
buran From: buran Date: November 10th, 2004 09:50 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
Check out http://www.heuserlab.wustl.edu -- I made that in dreamweaver. Yes, I'm the computer geek on the staff page. ;)
j_b From: j_b Date: November 11th, 2004 12:25 am (UTC) (Direct Link)
Sorry about my post. :-|
zonereyrie From: zonereyrie Date: November 11th, 2004 12:55 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
I thought it was funny. :-)