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What's the big deal?
So I read the new LJ TOS and I just don't see what the big deal is. A fairly standard, even mild, TOS. I don't really see that anything important has changed. Same reaction as to the sale - BFD.

I am: hungry hungry
Current Media: TV: No idea, just changed the channel...

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ardaniel From: ardaniel Date: January 7th, 2005 05:33 am (UTC) (Direct Link)
The only thing that made me wonder "WTF are they saying there?" was section XIV, point 4, second sentence:

LiveJournal.com also reserves the right, without limitation, to resell any portion of a user's LiveJournal back to that individual...

Since they claim no ownership of content, I have no idea what they mean there (the first part of point 4 is obviously just securing their right to make sure you can *see* content via the web or via one of the clients).
rbarclay From: rbarclay Date: January 7th, 2005 08:55 am (UTC) (Direct Link)
Yes, that's pretty odd, especially given XIV/1 and XIV/3. The only reason I can think of is if they want, for example, to charge you for bundling up all your stuff and handing it to you in a tarball or whatnot. Although I'd think they could charge you for the service of doing so, not for the content per se.
solipsistnation From: solipsistnation Date: January 7th, 2005 01:01 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
Sounds like they're considering a "print your livejournal as a book" service, which would cost money.
7threality From: 7threality Date: January 7th, 2005 02:46 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
You mean like this?
spiderourhero From: spiderourhero Date: January 7th, 2005 07:21 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
I didn't read the TOS because I'm not that big of a nerd. (Zing!)

I read about the sale and some part of my brain momentarily went crazy and thought that posting in Livejournal would start to become hip in the future because of all their pretty marketing stuff and neat layout options.

Then sanity resumed and I flipped into my friends page to resume reading about who's taking a sick day and who is really pissed at their Mom today.

*hugs her un-hip friends page*
fallenpegasus From: fallenpegasus Date: January 7th, 2005 07:56 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
In fact, the TOS is, in one important respect, even more "liberal", in that it allows users to be under-13 (thank our idiot Congress for that difficulty).
mackys From: mackys Date: January 8th, 2005 12:51 am (UTC) (Direct Link)

This rubs me the wrong way...

XIV. Journal Content

Should any Content be reported to LiveJournal.com as being offensive or inappropriate, LiveJournal.com might call upon the poster to retract, modify, or protect (by means of private and friends only settings) the Content in question within a reasonable amount of time, as set forth by the LiveJournal.com staff. Should the poster fail to meet such a request from LiveJournal.com staff, LiveJournal.com has the full authority to terminate any such reported and verified account holding such inappropriate content.


We all know what "offensive or inappropriate" means... whatever the hell some shrill idiot wants it to mean. Maybe my posting about X, Y or Z is "offensive" to someone. That should be too fucking bad for them - the right to free speech includes the right to offend someone's ever so delicate sensibilities. Unless you're posting it to LJ, apparently...


-Ben
From: autarchia Date: January 8th, 2005 09:49 am (UTC) (Direct Link)

Re: This rubs me the wrong way...

Actually, LJ has been veeery liberal in their views on what constitutes objectionable content. I know of a few people who got banned, but they did so for spreading unproductive hate speech and harrassing multiple LJ members repeatedly. Reading all through the FAQ, LJ's terms says that if it's not in breech of any laws, designed to incite violence, or promoting to illegal content, then if you find it objectionable your best recourse is to not read it.
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