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The other tech conference
So Apple has MacWorld while I'm here at CES. I checked out the announcements. The iPhone looks neat, but it isn't going to replace my Treo. Now, when are they going to release an iPod designed like that? They say the iPhone is a 'widescreen iPod' - but I don't want all the phone crap, give me a REAL widescreen iPod with the same interface and a 60/80GB drive!

AppleTV is just what I said it was when it was announced, and people started going on about being a 'TiVo killer'. It is an Apple Media Center Extender, plain and simple. That doesn't mean it isn't good for what it is, but it is not a DVR, or anything like it. I don't see getting one. TiVo will have more broadband content offerings this year, and I already have those. And I'll probably be getting a SlingCatcher, which will also have options for broadband content - no PC/Mac needed.

I was hoping for a real widescreen iPod. Guess I'll keep waiting.

Current Location: Las Vegas, NV
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pdelahanty From: pdelahanty Date: January 10th, 2007 12:56 am (UTC) (Direct Link)
Yeah, I kept waiting for "One more thing..." where he'd tell us we could get it without the phone, but with a large drive for the same price. He never did.

I don't want a phone! Gimme the iPod (wifi optional).
From: ninjarat Date: January 10th, 2007 01:49 am (UTC) (Direct Link)
The wide screen is most of why I got a PSP.
blarglefiend From: blarglefiend Date: January 10th, 2007 02:23 am (UTC) (Direct Link)
The item I find most immediately interesting is the new base station: 802.11n, small ethernet switch, USB for printer and disk sharing. Price seems reasonably competitive.

I'll wait and see what happens with AppleTV. If someone finds a way to make it play DivX nicely then I'd find it interesting. It's certainly no TiVo-killer, but with the USB port the basic design may be enough (with a bigger disk) to bung on a tuner and go. It'd make some sense to start out simple and grow from there.

iPhone looks nice, seems like it's effectively a PDA. Won't be available here for years (if ever) and too expensive for me anyway, but it is nifty kit and I can appreciate it for that.
etherial From: etherial Date: January 10th, 2007 03:02 am (UTC) (Direct Link)

re: treo vs. iphone

I'm curious how they stack up against each other in your mind. What does the iphone fail to offer over your treo?
zonereyrie From: zonereyrie Date: January 10th, 2007 08:00 am (UTC) (Direct Link)

Re: treo vs. iphone

Part of it is that I've been using PalmOS for 9 years or so now, and I rather like it. I don't know if I'd like to learn a new OS. I've played with Windows Mobile and hated it. But Apple generally does a better job of UI design, so maybe I'd like it if I played with it. It seems interesting at least.

But the thing that turns me off the most is the virtual keyboard. I've used devices with a virtual keyboard before, and typing with no tactile feedback bugs me. I like the keyboard on my Treo, I can tell that I'm pressing the keys correctly because of the feel. Typing on an unyielding, smooth surface just hasn't been comfortable in the past. And I use my Treo for work and regularly write long email replies from it. So a good typing interface is important to me.

I do really like the overall design, and the 480x320 screen is nice. That's one of the things I miss about my Sony Clie NZ-90, which had a screen of that resolution. Though the Treo's 320x320 isn't shabby.

As far as communication goes, my Treo 650 is a Quad-band phone too, as is the new 680. The 650 is GSM/GPRS, but the 680 adds EDGE like the iPhone. (Doesn't look like either does UMTS/HSDPA. The iPhone has BlueTooth 2.0 - while the 650 is 1.1 and the 680 is 1.2. Not sure that's too big a deal.

The iPhone has WiFi, which is something the Treo is lacking. But, honestly, I don't miss it. When I'm using wireless data it pretty much means I'm out and about, and not somewhere with a hotspot. But I'm sure some would get use out of it.

The iPhone has radically more storage - 4GB/8GB - compare to 32MB (650) or 64MB (680). But the Treo has an SDIO slot, and the 680 can support 4GB and 8GB SDHC cards if you need that kind of storage.

The iPhones camera is certainly better - 2MP compared to .3MP. But I haven't used the camera on my phone in over a year. I have a 5MP camera that I use for photos. I had a 2MP camera on my NZ-90, and didn't use it much after I got over the novelty factor.

Now, all of that said, if they came out with an iPod based on this with at least 60GB (the size of my current iPod), I'd snap it right up. And if they came out with an iPhone that used a 60GB+ drive instead of the 4/8GB of Flash, I would seriously check it out. And if it worked OK, I'd replace my Treo and iPod. But I value having all of my music with me, and that's close to 50GB worth, so I would not replace my iPod with only 4/8GB.
From: zeeke42 Date: January 10th, 2007 03:04 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)

Re: treo vs. iphone

I agree with most of what you said in this post. I'll also add that I don't want to switch providers or have the much slower data speed. I have a Treo 700P on Sprint, which is an EVDO phone. I understand Apple wanting to go GSM for the global market, but high speed data in the US is light years ahead on CDMA. Also, I pay $15/month for unlimited data on Sprint. How much more would I have to pay on Cingular? If they come out with a UMTS version that will work on the stuff T-mo is rolling out, I'll think about it then. If they come out with a Sprint EVDO version, I'll buy it immediately if I can live with the "keyboard".
zonereyrie From: zonereyrie Date: January 10th, 2007 09:02 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)

Re: treo vs. iphone

Cingular has UMTS/HSDPA in a number of major cities, with an aggressive build-out going on. So they're closing the gap on 3G performance. Of course, the iPhone has WiFi, so if you're in a city you're probably next to a Starbucks or Panera or something with a HotSpot.