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  • Sat, 20:42: Tron was sold out, we didn't expect that. We'll try again tomorrow. (@ Maison du MegaZone) http://4sq.com/h1CaeF
  • Sat, 21:02: Just helped someone from Louisville, KY with a question about *4G* ...on Aardvark! http://vark.com/t/8Uuuu-
  • Sat, 21:30: Tried to make up for being snowed in on my birthday last Sunday. Had a nice dinner, but the 20:00 IMAX 3D Tron was sold out - oops.
  • Sat, 21:31: So now we have tickets to tomorrow's 16:30 showing - planning ahead. If anyone wants to join us in Natick:http://bit.ly/eBBqFP


kadath From: kadath Date: January 2nd, 2011 05:45 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
Hey, when you're watching Tron, pay attention when the one guy is at the mainframe terminal and let me if you can tell what OS/shell the thing is running? I want to know if it's even vaguely real.
zonereyrie From: zonereyrie Date: January 3rd, 2011 04:10 am (UTC) (Direct Link)
You mean Flynn's desk in the arcade?

I didn't quite catch it all, but it was definitely UNIX. I thought maybe SunOS 4ish. I saw it with ninjarat and he said he caught that it was an i386 machine, so we thought some flavor of Intel BSD.

Hmm, I just did some poking around online. It looks like it identifies itself as "SolarOS 4.0.1 Generic_50203-02 Sun4m i386 Unknown.Unknown". Some blogs speculate it is Linux mocked up to look Sun-ish, since apparently it is running Xorg, which wasn't ported to Sun back then, and top looks like the Linux top.
kadath From: kadath Date: January 3rd, 2011 04:17 am (UTC) (Direct Link)
Yeah, that one. I wanted to know how much effort they'd put into making the shell look "period."

...could SunOS even run on x86? Way before my time, but I thought it was for the SPARC architecture.

Anyway, thanks!

What did you think of the movie? I enjoyed the hell out of it.
zonereyrie From: zonereyrie Date: January 3rd, 2011 05:16 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
I think there was a SunOS i386 port, but Sun boxes were Sparc back then. I'm a little surprised it wasn't running FlynnOS, since he'd apparently created it by that point. And FlynnOS is apparently a UNIX-like OS - we see hackerboy in the board room use 'kill -9' to stop the video.

I loved the movie, I thought they did a great job. And I was surprised by how well they did with young Flynn & Clu, I was worried about the Uncanny Valley but they managed to avoid it for me.
kadath From: kadath Date: January 3rd, 2011 06:37 pm (UTC) (Direct Link)
Maybe FlynnOS was for a PC architecture and didn't scale adequately to iron big enough to run the Grid. ENCOM in 2010 could be running clusters for when they need horsepower and not have any mainframes left in service. The new movie was clearly positioning ENCOM as Microsoft, they were always about PCs.

I'm happy the movie at least tried. In the original, the mainframe apparently had no command prompt and accepted really weirdly-phrased natural language syntax. On a non-snarky note, that speaks to the general computer literacy of the audience they were expecting. They had to get it close enough that all the 6 year olds who saw the first movie and grew up into total geeks would accept it.

Young Flynn felt a bit off to me, but he might not have if I hadn't seen it on a giant IMAX screen. I didn't have any Uncanny Valley issues with Clu. dirkcjelli did, but not badly enough that he even mentioned it until a couple of days later.