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My first FreeBSD install - ugh...
zonereyrie From: zonereyrie Date: November 27th, 2002 08:02 am (UTC) (Direct Link)

Re: Eh?

Being my first experience with actually adminning FreeBSD, I haven't seen this first hand yet. I have some friends who like to praise FreeBSD's management.

One thing I'd like to know - does FreeBSD have anything like Red Hat's 'Red Hat Network', Ximian's 'Red Carpet', or Debian's apt-get? I find these very convenient for keeping the system up to date, grabbing patches, installing new software, etc. Actually being alerted when there is a bugfix, etc, does make life easier. I read the CERT advisories, but that doesn't cover everything. And I'm not a full-time admin, basically I'm running these boxes to use for development and testing. I don't have the cycles to keep up with everything as it stands.

I know FreeBSD has pkg_add, and the ports, but it is more of a manual process of finding the package you want to install and downloading it... Hmm... I see 'pkg_add -r', that is probably useful. I've read a bit on ports - I picked up "The FreeBSD Handbook, 2nd Edition" along with the CDs - and it does seem like a nifty system.

From: kentarokurahone Date: November 27th, 2002 08:43 am (UTC) (Direct Link)

Re: Eh?

cvsup /etc/cvsupfile. That combined with portupgrade, make, sh, and cron will keep a system up to date. Security advisories are available from the freebsd web page. :D

'course having an automated system running around replacing binaries does have it's pitfalls, and drawbacks. YMMV.
zonereyrie From: zonereyrie Date: November 27th, 2002 09:07 am (UTC) (Direct Link)
Well, I wouldn't full automate it. I don't do that on Linux either. I run RHN as a monitor and let it tell me when there are patches, then I review what they are and decide to have it install or not. No way would I let something auto-update my systems like that. TiVo gets away with it, but not my machines. ;-) I don't let Windows do it either.
reddragdiva From: reddragdiva Date: November 27th, 2002 08:46 am (UTC) (Direct Link)
Er, the ports (or packages) system serves the same purpose as apt-get. I liked apt-get about equally myself.

For security, http://www.freebsd.org/security/security.html and mailing-list freebsd-security-notifications.

The full handbook is also in /usr/share/doc , by the way, or should be.